Universal #1464

Legacy number: 1464

 Number  1460
 Original  In all languages, if some form denotes the metaperson 'speaker + hearer(s)', it must also denote the metaperson 'speaker + hearer(s) + non-participant(s)'.
 Standardized  IF a form denotes the metaperson 'speaker + hearer(s)', THEN it must also denote the metaperson 'speaker + hearer(s) + non-participant(s)'.
 Keywords  personal pronoun, person, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, speaker, hearer, non-participant, inclusive
 Domain  inflection, syntax, lexicon
 Type  implication
 Status  achronic
 Quality  absolute
 Basis  400 world-wide distributed languages, see Sokolovskaja 1980: 98-99; Sokolovskaja surveyed systems of independent personal pronouns only.
 Source  Boas 1911: 39-40, Sokolovskaja 1980: 93, U 22

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Discussion
Counterexamples
1. Gooniyandi (Bunaban, Australian), where there is a distinction between: (i) 'speaker + hearer' or 'speaker + non-participant + (non-participant) ..., and (ii) 'speaker + hearer + non-participant' ..., instead of the distinctions more common in Australian languages like dual vs. plural or inclusive vs. exclusive (mentioned in Testelec 1995: 582, for details see McGregor 1990). 2. The same system is documented in: Yaouré (Mande, Niger-Congo) (Hopkins 1986: 192, Kunimaipa (Trans-New Guinea) (Pence 1968, Geary 1977: 17-18) (p.c. M. Cysouw).3. Palaung (Mon-Khmer)(as described in Milne 1921: 17): it contains two pronouns glossed as ‘we’, ye and e. The first of these is to be used when the persons addressed are all present and the second when at least one of them is absent. The first is then ‘speaker+addressee(s)’ and the second, if we interpret absent as equivalent to 3rd person, can be represented as ‘speaker + addressee(s) + non-participant(s)’. (Greenberg 1989b: 455).4. Languages having separate 1DU.INCL and 1PL.INCL forms?
Notes
1. Sokolovskaja recognizes the following metapersons:'speaker', 'hearer(s)', 'non-participant(s)', 'speaker + hearer(s)', 'speaker + non-participant(s)', 'hearer(s) + non-participant(s)', and 'speaker + hearer(s) + non-participant(s)'. 2. This universal was first suggested by Franz Boas (1911: 39-40): "A true first person plural is impossible, because there can never be more than one self. This logical laxity is avoided by many languages, in which a sharp distinction is made between the two combinations self and person or persons spoken to, or self and person or persons spoken of. I do not know of any language expressing in a separate form the combination of the three persons, probably because this idea readily coalesces with the idea of self and persons spoken to. These two forms are generally designated by the rather inaccurate term of 'inclusive' and 'exclusive first person plural', by which is meant the first person plural, including or excluding the person addressed".3. The reverse is not true (cf. ##1476, 1477).4. This universal claims that an inclusive form is always a super-inclusive one, cf. #1463.
Comment
Frans Plank · 3 Aug 2006
1. Sokolovskaja recognizes the following metapersons: 'speaker', 'hearer(s)', 'non-participant(s)', 'speaker + hearer(s)', 'speaker + non-participant(s)', 'hearer(s) + non-participant(s)', and 'speaker + hearer(s) + non-participant(s)'.

2. This universal was first suggested by Franz Boas 1911: 39-40: "A true first person plural is impossible, because there can never be more than one self. This logical laxity is avoided by many languages, in which a sharp distinction is made between the two combinations self and person or persons spoken to, or self and person or persons spoken of. I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY LANGUAGE EXPRESSING IN A SEPARATE FORM THE COMBINATION OF THE THREE PERSONS, probably because this idea readily coalesces with the idea of self and persons spoken to. These two forms are generally designated by the rather inaccurate term of 'inclusive' and 'exclusive first person plural', by which is meant the first person plural, including or excluding the person addressed".

3. The reverse is not true (cf. <a class="innerLink" href="browse.php?entry_id=1476"><img src="../img/entry.gif" border="0">, <a class="innerLink" href="browse.php?entry_id=1477"><img src="../img/entry.gif" border="0">).

4. This universal claims that an inclusive form is always a super-inclusive one, cf. <a class="innerLink" href="browse.php?entry_id=1463"><img src="../img/entry.gif" border="0">